mr. hoekstra: yeah, i think there are. there are not a lot of democrats, but no, there are some that clearly see the threat from radical jihadists. what will they throw back at me? you had hillary clinton talking about -- this amazes me. in one of the debates, she said libya is the best example of the use of smart power. and it's like, you got to be kidding me. that's what they believe. what they would throw back is what you mentioned in the front row. islamaphobacist, e." what i do in the book is outline a series of realists foreign policies. foreign policy is not black and white. most of it is grey. "all you want to do is go to work." -- go to war." no, i would have left gaddafi, mubarak, assad in place. if we had left those three governments in place, the middle east would be a whole lot different today. why would i say that? hopefully we have learned the lesson from iraq. when you go in and break it, it's hard to put back together. yeah? >> class of 2005. you partly answered my question. it seems that we take them out